As it …
the Olympia.

As it was, with the same 12 judges every year, that is how you wind up with repeat champions with Haney for 8 years, Dorian for 6, and Ronnie for 8.

Theses same judges obviously like what they like(mass) and their opinions aren’t going to change.

No, neither Shawn nor Flex could Squat or Deadlift 800+ lbs., but who cares? At the end of the day, that means nothing. The last time I checked, this was Bodybuilding, not Powerlifting, so the weight is really irrelevant

And yes, guys like Samir Bannout, Chris Dickerson, Franco Columbu, and Frank Zane have all won the Mr. Olympia, that was all in a completely different era where a much more complete physique was being rewarded over sheer mass.

And, lastly, are you seriously doubting how much Shawn and Flex, who are the two greatest bodybuilders ever in my opinion, know?

Who are you again?

Second, fine.

The bottomline is that Shawn didn’t win and he made excuse after excuse why it was so. I’m no Dorian fan, but you can’t discredit some judges and credit others with no credible evidence. He basically doesn’t trust the system which said he was good enough to get in the olympia. He’s saying that the system that thought he was qualified for the Olympia is wrong. So should he even be in the Olympia??

My point with the weight count is that a guy who lifts that much weight is gonna be more dense and harder than you. Ronnie put everything he had into his workouts. Flex and Shawn worked hard, but if you look at the difference between them and Ronnie you see that Ronnie left

I doubt what the losers of a contest know. They don’t know how to win the big one.
“Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, don’t nobody wanna lift this heavy weight!” -Ronnie Coleman
Start lifting heavy weights and you’ll win.

Do you honestly believe that Haney, Dorian, and Ronnie deserved ALL of their Olympia titles and that Shawn, Flex, and Kevin should have never won?

Obviously, if the IFBB did what Shawn suggested and rotated the judges every year,

But, unfortunately, we’ll never know.

As far as weight goes, obviously, it’s all relative.

Shawn is 5′7 and anywhere from 205-215lbs on stage and usually starts dieting at about 230lbs.

Ronnie is 5′10 or 5′11(not sure) and he competes at about 270-300lbs. and I’m sure he’s well over 300lbs. in the offseason.

Shawn never trained like that, he never felt the need to as he knew he was a Bodybuilder and not a Powerlifter, but I think, pound for pound, Shawn just about maximized his strength. He did the best he could do with what he had to work with And, obviously, what he did worked well for him and what Ronnie did worked well for him.

“He put more effort in his quest to gain the most muscle mass and did some of it during PRECONTEST!!!”

As if muscle mass is all that matters or that mass is more important than any other aspect of your physique.

Shawn never just tried to mindlessly gain mass. Size for the sake of size is not

By putting “more effort in his quest to gain the most muscle mass”, Ronnie not only ended his career, but ruined his physique as well.

Ronnie looked MUCH better before he won the Olympia.

Shawn also never would have sacrificed his health to get just as big as Haney, Dorian, or Ronnie pound for pound.